tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1679680415704254815.post4887380486100653021..comments2024-03-07T05:25:48.790-08:00Comments on The Elegant Bohemian: Using seduction to get attention...Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16372495540919045223noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1679680415704254815.post-44054578469894985382012-01-12T19:53:00.106-08:002012-01-12T19:53:00.106-08:00I found this story troubling.
Did anyone watch th...I found this story troubling.<br /><br />Did anyone watch the Today show interview with the mom? I'm not sure how I'd approach this with my daughter, if it ever came up...but hopefully I'd find a sensitive yet effective way to get the message to her she does not want to be remembered like this.Fleurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08121617041725938338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1679680415704254815.post-72957457436026125512012-01-12T17:42:09.780-08:002012-01-12T17:42:09.780-08:00Paula & Vahni, Thanks for the thoughtful comme...Paula & Vahni, Thanks for the thoughtful comments. As the mother of an 18 year old girl, I guess this story really hit home to me. It troubles me to see young girls and women being so overtly sexualized. I'm not suggesting wearing burkas in public, but I AM suggesting that attractiveness is much more subtle than blatant sexuality. Attractiveness takes in all aspects of a person...their appearance, style, sense of humor, personality, etc.. and forms a conclusion. The public sexuality is just shallow. Ultimately, it would have helped this girl if her mom had put her foot down and not allowed these pictures even to be taken.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16372495540919045223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1679680415704254815.post-79641711247077172762012-01-12T17:22:51.337-08:002012-01-12T17:22:51.337-08:00Fabulous post, Serene. You make great points, and ...Fabulous post, Serene. You make great points, and I like that you didn't poo-poo ALL use of sexiness. I think where so many women make the mistake, including Sidney, is not understanding that there is a TIME and a PLACE, and it ain't the yearbook, or the office. It's in a private situation with someone you fancy.<br /><br />Now it's one thing to be a sexy lady by nature. There are women like that and they are just so seductive even in a menswear-style suit. The key is knowing when it's too much, too overt. It's an unfortunate development in modern society that young women can't get that less is more, that after they secure the mostly male attention they are after, the ones giving the attention will eventually move on to the next thing. Because let's face it, once you've exposed it all, done it all, as you said, there is nothing left. And without anything else to keep them engaged, men will move on.<br /><br />There is a lot about sex, visuals, and male psychology most young women (and women in general) don't understand. They don't seem to realize that there's a lot of power in it, that we really do hold the keys. It's empowering and good to embrace your sexuality in a way that doesn't compromise your reputation or integrity. If only more women got that, if they could just understand the thrill of the hunt and all that, they'd fare a lot better.<br /><br />Anyway, I believe at the end of the day, the only way to prevent this kind of misrepresentation is to teach our girls the realities of life and to make them understand that sexuality is even more powerful when it's not served up on a platter for public consumption. We need to teach our girls morals, self-respect, and social graces. Or at least NOT permit them to racy photos of themselves. In high school.GRIT AND GLAMOURhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04398998656426753824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1679680415704254815.post-19048702365527947842012-01-12T11:45:47.026-08:002012-01-12T11:45:47.026-08:00PS: I recommend Natasha Walter's "Living ...PS: I recommend Natasha Walter's "Living Dolls" on this topic! <br />Here I posted my initial thoughts on the subject:<br />http://ratherthanfacebook.blogspot.com/2011/10/girls.html<br /><br />Having read Natasha Walter's book I can at least say it is not that bad in Austria. Compared to UK :-/Paulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17842556959891396007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1679680415704254815.post-70541527613933302782012-01-12T11:42:18.779-08:002012-01-12T11:42:18.779-08:00Hi!
yes, the over-sexualised girls ...
I did a ...Hi! <br /><br />yes, the over-sexualised girls ... <br />I did a research on exactly this topic, spoke with young women and girls (12-16 years) and feminists who work with young adults. <br /><br />Of course they would tell you they wear low-cut t-shirts and hot pants because they feel so hot (in late october, 12°C)<br /><br />But there is an explanation, that makes sense- it is a simple answer: with all those sexy poses they receive attention and acknowledgment with the least effort.<br />It would take much more effort to write a poem, paint a picture or similar creative works.<br /><br />You can get the recognition with less effort (simply wear a t-shirt that shows lots of cleavage and take a photo with the webcam) and post hhe photo on facebook. and the "likes" will follow. <br /><br />Facebook and youtube became their lives, they somehow even depend on approval, they need to be recognised and choose the easiest way, by confronting us, the viewers with what they present. <br /><br />I am from that other generation, the one that used to paint and write. <br /><br />The topic has been on my mind for a few years and last year I did a feature for the Austrian radio. <br /><br />Afterwards I met some colleagues at the broadcasting compandy who havd listened to the programme and they were as depressed as I was when I first met the girls and listened to what they had to say.<br /><br />Unfortunately the feature was broadcasted in German and there is no online-stream available. <br /><br />What puzzled me was the fact that I seek for approval, too! By posting photos, writing postings, I love to be noticed. Having worked on the subject of the girls showed me that blogging somehow connects me with my inner girl, the one that is still seeking for attention and wants to be recognised.<br /><br />I hope this makes sense!<br /><br />PS: visting via Not Dead Yet Style :-)Paulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17842556959891396007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1679680415704254815.post-8014985198105447962012-01-11T06:54:13.758-08:002012-01-11T06:54:13.758-08:00Great post Serene. I think the culture as a whole...Great post Serene. I think the culture as a whole has a huge part to play in the sexualization of young women. How to change this is such a complex issue. Awareness and talking about it openly is a good first step.The Style Cronehttp://stylecrone.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1679680415704254815.post-36407981776277903802012-01-10T20:38:27.067-08:002012-01-10T20:38:27.067-08:00Brava, Serene. I think a part of the problem is m...Brava, Serene. I think a part of the problem is marketing. I know that I was in a constant battle with my two youngest daughters to get them to tone it down a bit...I wasn't a prude, but they did not seem to understand what about them brought on rude attentions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1679680415704254815.post-12818906278592139302012-01-10T18:45:22.200-08:002012-01-10T18:45:22.200-08:00thank you for this post. totally agree with you. ...thank you for this post. totally agree with you. The world has become a blur, what is suggestive and what is artistic has become so grey. I am black and white when it comes to style, no revealing clothes and suggestive sexy poses. uh-uh no-no. <br /><br />mongs<br />mythriftycloset.blogspot.commy thrifty closethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04519914728401007852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1679680415704254815.post-35703926912233478002012-01-10T17:51:39.337-08:002012-01-10T17:51:39.337-08:00Thought provoking comments, Serene. I have mixed ...Thought provoking comments, Serene. I have mixed feelings about all of this. I was definitely raised to put brain first and not put my sexuality out there, so to speak. Now, I sometimes wonder if I took that conservatism TOO far, failing to enjoy my youthful appearance, while I had it! But if I really think about it, I think I did the right thing, and I would probably make the same choices again.AnPhibianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14308541800877192868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1679680415704254815.post-146923552652543232012-01-10T16:42:38.258-08:002012-01-10T16:42:38.258-08:00I totally agree!!
What I want to know is where are...I totally agree!!<br />What I want to know is where are her PARENTS and why do they think THIS is acceptable???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1679680415704254815.post-73785308618425173612012-01-10T06:58:06.410-08:002012-01-10T06:58:06.410-08:00Excellent post, Serene. The sexualization of young...Excellent post, Serene. The sexualization of young women is starting younger all the time, it's a real social problem. I try to encourage my young nieces to excel at their schoolwork, sports and civic clubs -- and later for the glamor.Patti @ NotDeadYet Stylehttp://notdeadyetstyle.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1679680415704254815.post-60758780933517162762012-01-10T04:59:42.777-08:002012-01-10T04:59:42.777-08:00As a yearbook advisor for 11 years, I have had to ...As a yearbook advisor for 11 years, I have had to face this very issue. I try to counsel with the girls when I tell them why I will not allow their picture to run. Sydney says she is outgoing, but the truth is that he self esteem is in the gutter and she is in need of attention. That is where I start when I speak with them...we discuss the right and wrong ways to get attention and the messages your clothing (or lack of) sends. There are too many young girls like this in high schools today! They quite simply to do value themselves.Pam @ over50feeling40https://www.blogger.com/profile/15271159201006142602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1679680415704254815.post-2594671242152810512012-01-10T03:44:22.853-08:002012-01-10T03:44:22.853-08:00Judy, went back and reread my post and WOW! I mea...Judy, went back and reread my post and WOW! I meant to say, "It isn't" NOT "it IS!" Did a quick edit and I'm so glad you caught that!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16372495540919045223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1679680415704254815.post-17801114148871203702012-01-10T03:42:24.433-08:002012-01-10T03:42:24.433-08:00Judy, I completely agree! By no brainer I meant t...Judy, I completely agree! By no brainer I meant that it ABSOLUTELY has no place in the yearbook.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16372495540919045223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1679680415704254815.post-25318962073483146882012-01-10T03:35:37.221-08:002012-01-10T03:35:37.221-08:00I totally agree with your assessment that the blat...I totally agree with your assessment that the blatant sexuality is a bad message. But I disagree in that I think it has no place in a yearbook. My reason is that the non-artistic pic is just tacky. In a yearbook striving to be exceptional, this is not acceptable. I understand the mother is backing her and she wants to model. With those pics the only thing she'll be able to model is lingerie. Not so good at high school.Judy Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02275744406579851114noreply@blogger.com